Holger, the term sustainability is defined differently. Why is that so? And what do you understand by it?
Holger Czuday: Right, you can find in the literature very diverse definitions for the term and you can define it from different points of view. In the context of my daily work, I understand the term to mean that sustainable development can or must be assigned to three pillars: Economy, Environment, Social. Therefor it is necessary to act in these three areas to achieve sustainability. If you want to consider, for example, a country or evaluate companies or products in their sustainability, then it is quite necessary to examine all three of these aspects.
If I evaluate products as sustainable - does that mean in reverse that the whole company is sustainable?
Holger Czuday: No, you cannot automatically assume that. You must clearly distinguish between corporate sustainability and product sustainability. Sustainable products should be designed to be as durable as possible. They should be resource-efficient and, as far as possible, reusable after use. They should also pose no risk to health. And the focus here is clearly on the environmental aspect with the product. If we look at corporate sustainability, then this concerns the entire enterprise that develops, manufactures and produces this product. Here, it is not only the product of the company itself that is considered sustainable, but, as I said, the entire enterprise must be evaluated. Here again, social, ecological and economic aspects play a role. So, a very broad approach in distinction to the product.
So, it may well be that a product is sustainable, but the whole company does not yet act sustainably?
Holger Czuday: That would be correct in doubt, but then the company would have somehow done something wrong. The sustainable product would already be included in the valuation of the company. But there we come now already too much in depth and to the methodology of the study.
Then I like to lead over to Oliver: You have developed a systematic to evaluate the sustainability of products. How did you go about it?
Oliver Mayer: To go into depth here in the context of this podcast episode is not feasible. But that's why we wrote the study , which can be downloaded for free on our website. Nevertheless, briefly explained: our objective was mainly to show a methodology that is simple and practical. For this methodology we used different methods, which are already known, for example the function analysis from the TRIZ method. With this, we have identified functions of products and components and also classified them into useful functions, but also into functions that we actually don't want to have, but which are there nonetheless. Let's think of a car, it simply has a space requirement. Although it would be nice if it didn't have a space requirement. Then we used the best method, which is simply the environmental or the sustainable counterpart, where we say, "How can these elements here be coupled with the functional analysis so that we link the environmental, social and economic aspects?" And the third is value analysis, which is also not new, but related so that the results can be weighted.
You also gave a good tangible application example in the study. Holger, can you illustrate this for us?
Holger Czuday: Yes, with pleasure. We have in the context of the study taken two vehicles that are available on the market. This is, on the one hand, a BMW three in the diesel version and the Tesla model three. Of course, we could have taken any other models from other manufacturers. These are two examples that were just at disposal available here and we examined them according to the methodology that Oliver has just touched on. Now you can say: "Tesla won". Both the vehicle under consideration, i.e. the Model 3, and the company were each rated as more sustainable here. But of course it's not quite that simple. The devil is in the details to a certain extent! And as I said, the methodology that Oliver has presented here, with very many different evaluation criteria, is best read in the study at your leisure in more detail.
If I as a company become aware of this study and now want to make the analysis for my products ... Can I use your systematics across industries, or does it work exclusively for the automotive industry?
Oliver Mayer: You can of course use the systematics in other industries. We have used the automotive industry only for our study as an application example. I would like to emphasize here: The systematics has not yet been broken down to the last detail. That will only develop over time. I mean, how you evaluate sustainability varies by industry or company. But it is a starting point on how to begin. And it will continue to develop on that basis. We have also tried this out with photovoltaic modules or washing machines. And the feedback was quite interesting. They said, "A hell lot of work, but it works!" And in this respect, we are quite confident that this methodology can be applied across industries and especially to small and medium-sized enterprises, because it draws a lot on tools that are already known there.